Has Movements – A Persona or a Promised Idea? (Part V)

Christ’s Persona before Incarnation (Series 5)

By Eusebio Tanicala, Ph.D.

This article deals with movements or actions. With each action or movement or attribute mentioned in a passage, ask yourself the question: “Is this a persona or an idea I read about in his verse?”

After reflecting on this series #5, you should be able to reason out that it is more logical to think of a persona making movements or actions and not a promised idea.

Hebrew 1:10-13; Psalm 90:2; John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:16-17 – Passages declaring that Christ in His spirit persona was the Creator of the invisible and visible dominions and powers and principalities. Can the act of creating be assigned to a promised idea?

Micah 5:2 foretells the birth place of the Messiah in Bethlehem which is fulfilled in Matt. 2 and Luke 2 but makes additional information about previous movements prior to the incarnation of that Messiah and says, “Whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting.” The spirit persona of the Messiah has existed and has moved from the everlasting, eternal past. The term “whose” properly refers to a persona not to a concept or promised idea.

John 3:16; 5:30; John 6:29,29, 57; John 7:16, 33; John 8:18, 29; John 17:3, 21, 23, 25 — All declare the sending of the Son by the Father. Where was Christ and when was He commissioned and sent out by the Father to save the sinful world? Was He in heaven before His incarnation? Was He in Judea in 30 A.D.? To this writer, it’s more logical to think that He was a persona in the spirit with the Father in Heaven before His incarnation. And we could not think of sending and commissioning an idea or concept.

John 3:31; 8:23 – Give testimonies to us about Christ being from above in Heaven and not from earth below.

John 8:42; 16:27 & 17:8– tell us of Christ’s consciousness of having proceeded or having come from the Father. The personal pronoun “I” should make us feel that Christ was a persona while in Heaven.

John 6:33, 35, 38, 41, 51 – Christ says he came from above, from heaven. While Jesus was alive on earth he made this interesting statement: “No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man *who is in heaven.” (John 3:13) The act of descending comes first than the act of ascending which suggest that His existence in heaven is prior to His presence on earth. To think of a persona that descends from heaven is more logical than having an idea that descend from heaven to earth. Please read the other passages.

John 10:36, “… do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? The phrase “sent into the world” suggests a person that exists outside of the world and he enters into the world.

John 16:27-28 tells us the movement of a persona, “I came forth from the Father and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world and go to the Father.” Usage of a personal pronoun and his movements suggest the presence of a persona that came forth from the Father and who returned to the Father.

John 6:62, “What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before?” This was stated while Christ was one earth in 29 A.D. And the disciples witnessed this in Acts 1:9-11.

John 13:3, “Jesus… He had come from God and was going to God.” John 16:16, “I go to the Father” 27, “I go to the Father” 28, “I … have come into the world…I leave the world and go to the Father.”John 17:11, part of Jesus’ farewell prayer says, “ … I come to You … Holy Father…” 13, “…I come to You…” John 20:17, “… I am ascending to My Father…”

The above verses give us the conclusion that there was a spirit persona that descended from Heaven, and that same spirit persona was the one that back to Heaven. The mystery is that the spirit persona fused with humanity. Our Lord Jesus Christ is one persona with two nature or essence in Him: deity and humanity. This fusion of two natures we could not fathom but we have to accept it by faith. Someday we shall understand.